Yeah the gun is worth having especially for free. The sears and roebuck 300 isn't the best gun ever, but you can hunt with it and shoot sporting clays with it. The model 300 will do fine until you can get the $1000-$1700 gun. Heck you might end up liking the model 300 and end up not getting a new gun. Browning BPS, 12 gauge. Remington 1100, 12 gauge Remington 1100, 20 gauge Stoeger 2000, 12 gauge Springfield 67f, 20 gauge Ithaca model 100, 20 gauge H&R single shot, 12 gauge H&R single shot,.410. I am one of maybe a few who is a Ted Williams 300 groupie.
They are great shotguns! They were in fact much better in my opinion than the Winchester 1400 from which they are kin to. They had better wood, better balance, double beeded sights, vent ribs, and a vari-choke.
And everyone I have seen with the exception of a few were in excellent condition. There is no data or production dates available. I own many and the differences are subtle the ones made between 1964 and 1968 had chrome triggers, and a thicker pistol grip, the serial numbers were under the reciever, the ones made from 1969 on had the letter Q in front of the serial numbers the earliest one with a Q serial number to date I have found is Q29832, another change is the pistol grip is much narrower, and the trigger is now matte black, another later change for the 300 is that the serial number went on the left side of the reciever the earliest number I have found is Q57599. The highest serial number I have seen is Q139463 probably near the end of the Ted Williams production run which ended in 1978. I have been trying to figure production dates by checking gun auctions and gathering barrel codes and serial numbers and original owner info on the 200 and 300 Ted Williams. Thier does seem to be some barrel code date sequence but I have not yet been able to figure it out.
But yes the 300 is one great little trouble free shotgun with loads of cheap spare parts if it should ever breakdown which I doubt. Last edited by on Mon Oct 29, 2012 4:36 am, edited 2 times in total. I have a Ted Williams 300 273.521050 Q75699 I traded an old Massey Ferguson lawn mower for it back in 1983.
The only problem is that someone had cut off the buttstock to make it a youth gun. I'm trying to find a replacement stock for it.
I'd also love to find a Ted Williams brown recoil pad for it as the original was hacked to fit the shorter stock. I'll probably just order a Pachmayr pad if I can find a new stock. This gun has only been shot a few times since I've owned it. It has a few rust spots on the choke and some small one on the underside of the barrel, so I'll probably spot-blue it. The barrel is really clean inside. They are opening a new skeet range here(first one) and I have never shot skeet before, so I'm wondering if this shotgun would make a good beginners skeet gun? I have no idea about what may be appropriate or suitable.
What does the VC and CR code stamped on the barrel by the trademark indicate? Where do you find the barrel number? There are 2 circles, one the barrel and on on top of teh receiver that have the letters SP inside. What is that?
I have a Ted Williams 300 273.521050 Q75699 I traded an old Massey Ferguson lawn mower for it back in 1983. The only problem is that someone had cut off the buttstock to make it a youth gun. I'm trying to find a replacement stock for it. I'd also love to find a Ted Williams brown recoil pad for it as the original was hacked to fit the shorter stock. I'll probably just order a Pachmayr pad if I can find a new stock. This gun has only been shot a few times since I've owned it. It has a few rust spots on the choke and some small one on the underside of the barrel, so I'll probably spot-blue it.
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The barrel is really clean inside. They are opening a new skeet range here(first one) and I have never shot skeet before, so I'm wondering if this shotgun would make a good beginners skeet gun? I have no idea about what may be appropriate or suitable. What does the VC and CR code stamped on the barrel by the trademark indicate? Where do you find the barrel number? There are 2 circles, one the barrel and on on top of teh receiver that have the letters SP inside. What is that?
Thanks for the serial number and barrel code it helps in my research. I am assuming the serial number is on the left side of the reciever correct? The CR is the barrel code and the VC is on all barrels with the Vari Choke barrel. You just missed out I did see a complete Model 300 stock set complete with the recoil pad and pistol grip caps and forearm go for $45.00 including shipping on Ebay. I always check Ebay and gunbroker for Ted Williams or other parts. Ebay is almost always cheaper, I just recently purchased a model 300 barrel with vents and vari choke for $25.00. And a Winchester Model 50 Forearm for $9.00 which is at least $30 cheaper than anyplace I have ever seen both on Ebay!
Also if you get the original buttplate complete with recoil pad make sure you get the appropriate screwdriver and lubricate the screwdriver when unscrewing and rescrewing the recoil pad to the buttplate, if you do not use the right screwdriver and do not lubricate it you will damage the recoil pad, and you will need a long screwdriver for tightening the stock to the reciever. Thanks again for the serial number and barrel code someday I will figure out the production dates! I have a Ted Williams 300 273.521050 Q75699 I traded an old Massey Ferguson lawn mower for it back in 1983. The only problem is that someone had cut off the buttstock to make it a youth gun. I'm trying to find a replacement stock for it. I'd also love to find a Ted Williams brown recoil pad for it as the original was hacked to fit the shorter stock.
I'll probably just order a Pachmayr pad if I can find a new stock. This gun has only been shot a few times since I've owned it. It has a few rust spots on the choke and some small one on the underside of the barrel, so I'll probably spot-blue it. The barrel is really clean inside. They are opening a new skeet range here(first one) and I have never shot skeet before, so I'm wondering if this shotgun would make a good beginners skeet gun? I have no idea about what may be appropriate or suitable. What does the VC and CR code stamped on the barrel by the trademark indicate?
Where do you find the barrel number? There are 2 circles, one the barrel and on on top of teh receiver that have the letters SP inside. What is that?
Someone on one of these boards stated (I cannot verify) that a national skeet record was set with a Ted Williams 200 or 300. As for the surface rust on your barrel use 0000 fine steel wool and a good gun oil to remove the rust. I would shoot skeet with a Model 300 they have good balance.
I'm not StoneChimney but I hope you don't mind if I post some information StoneChimney hasn't posted for quite a while and it is a loss for the forum. He was knowledgeable and his replies were a valuable asset. Any how, your TW 300 is a Winchester 1400 and was made from 1964 and 1968, your TW 200 is a Winchester 1200 and was sold by Sears, from 1964 until 1988, it is still in production. I can find neither model on the different serial number charts that are available to me., perhaps because they are modern firearms and not considered collectible such as the old Winchester Lever Actions and pre 64 models. To meet Sears' price line both models used less expensive hard wood for the stocks and less finishing on both the external and internal metal. This is why they bring less that the parent models at sale time, they are still Winchesters except in finish and name. Hope that helps.
I appreciate the help so the TW300 was only made from 1964-68 that pretty much narrows that. The TW200 from what I have been reading around was made from like you stated 1964 until 1978 with Ted Williams name on it. Others state they sold about 82,000 a year so by that if true my two TW200's were made in 1967-68. Which would match the story by the sellers which tie them to the mid sixties. But Stoney seemed to know how to date the TW's by barrel code which would be the first person I have run across with that level of expertise on TW's. Thanks for the help everyone! I'm not StoneChimney but I hope you don't mind if I post some information StoneChimney hasn't posted for quite a while and it is a loss for the forum.
He was knowledgeable and his replies were a valuable asset. Any how, your TW 300 is a Winchester 1400 and was made from 1964 and 1968, your TW 200 is a Winchester 1200 and was sold by Sears, from 1964 until 1988, it is still in production. I can find neither model on the different serial number charts that are available to me., perhaps because they are modern firearms and not considered collectible such as the old Winchester Lever Actions and pre 64 models.
To meet Sears' price line both models used less expensive hard wood for the stocks and less finishing on both the external and internal metal. This is why they bring less that the parent models at sale time, they are still Winchesters except in finish and name.
Hope that helps. Click to expand. Stoney stated that there was no way for him to date Model 200s and 300s. But from information from many sites like this and tracking auctions, and stories of original owners who remembered the year of purchase I can pretty much get close on the TW200's, The ones I have with 295xxx & 296xxx are manufactured in 1967. One other thing I have learned is that the first year 1964 model barrel was inscribed with just a print type Ted Williams instead of a signature and maybe 1965. I will just keep watching auctions and learn.
I fact every item sold in the Sears Sports Department from 1964 until 1978 had the Ted Williams name on it from guns, ammo, to outboard motors to tackle boxes. Ted Williams was signed by Sears in 1962 to evaluate and test and improve all items procured by Sears at there huge testing warehouse. The Firearms Forum is on online community for all gun enthusiasts. Join us to discuss firearms of all kinds, gun accessories, legal issues and more. Membership is free and we welcome all types of shooters, whether you're a novice or a pro. Come for the info, stay and make some friends. Site Functions.
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LSB#: 110722HA6 Make: J.C. Higgins/Sears Model: 583.23 Serial Number: NSN Year of Manufacture: 1954: Caliber: 12 Ga. 2 3/4' Action Type: This is a bolt action, tube fed shotgun. The magazine holds two rounds and likely has a plug installed. Markings: The left side of the receiver is marked 'J.C.
Higgins Model 583.23 / Sears, Roebuck And Co.' The right side of the receiver is marked 'Proof Tested 12 GA. / 2 3/4' Chamber'. Barrel Length: 28' to the end of the Multichoke Sights / Optics: The gun is mounted with a bead front sight. Stock Configuration & Condition: The stock(s) is/are wood in very good condition with just a couple of minor storage / handling marks.
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There is a rubber butt pad installed. The LOP is approx. Type of Finish: Blue Finish Originality: All Original Bore Condition: The bore is bright with some very minor fouling that should clean up easily. There is no apparent erosion. Overall Condition: This gun retains about 90%+ of its metal finish. The balance of the finish shows just minor wear and very little use.
There is good bluing on the receiver, barrel and the underside loading gate. The Screw heads are in good condition with little disfiguration except for the screw in the receiver (left side) which may be a bolt stop (?). This screw shows disfiguring from using a poor fitting screwdriver.
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The markings are clear. Overall, this gun rates in about excellent condition. Mechanics: The action functions correctly. We did not fire this gun. Ammunition feeds correctly from the magazine and chambers well.
There is a safety notice/recall on this model that can be researched on Google. Box & Accessories: None Our Assessment: This is a great all around Multi-choke versatile shotgun. Great for upland game, rabbits, and general barnyard use.
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As a first gun for a deserving grandchild, here is an excellent condition easy to use safe shotgun. This gun will provide years of use and enjoyment. CA Legal or CA Private Party Transferable: This gun is transferable in California. LSB#: 110722HA6 Make: J.C. Higgins/Sears Model: 583.23 Serial Number: NSN Year of Manufacture: 1954: http://www.histandard.info/models/private/Sears/SearsBol. Shipping: USPS Insured shipping will cost $40. To reduce the likelihood of damage during shipping, we disassemble long guns by removing stocks when it is possible & easy and will not damage the wood or screws.
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